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89 Dodge Aries OVERHEATING

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:23 pm
by inrltd
OK so i thought i had a minor problem till i started tuning up everything in the car
i started putting parts on little by little and seems to mess everything up, every leak i fix causes another leak..

1. Brown oil on ground when car sits in driveway overnight..
2.OVERHEATING TO THE MAX goes above the orange line and starts to smoke and 1 time it busted the hose and antifreeze went all over the car
3. losts of rusting on radiator hoses like when the water goes on them and it looks faded cause of anti freeze leak
4. im going to replace all the hoses today and try to bleed it out
5. HELP ME

Re: 89 Dodge Aries OVERHEATING

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:51 pm
by 88 aries
Head gasket...

Re: 89 Dodge Aries OVERHEATING

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:37 pm
by inrltd
we ruled out the head gasket.. i drive the car everyday.. it only does this at stop lights i forgot to put that .. and the oil is not milky the head gasket is good.. there is no codes coming from the car

sounds like bubbles in my hoses now that i have replaced them and the oil looks like its coming from the rear main seal on the transmission

1. it has a leak somewhere
2. my radiator might be out ..
3.the bleed out valve was pointless cause all it did was shoot out antifreeze and then the bubbles where still there but if u just run the car with the radiator cap off it does the same thing as the bleeder valve so i dont get the point of that..

im just going to start replacing all the stuff till i get it to stop..

Re: 89 Dodge Aries OVERHEATING

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:02 pm
by MyDodgeDip
Does the fan turn on? Did you burp the air out of the system when you filled it?

Re: 89 Dodge Aries OVERHEATING

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:10 pm
by inrltd
MyDodgeDip wrote:Does the fan turn on? Did you burp the air out of the system when you filled it?


the fan was broken so i rewired it to turn on when u turn the key.. so its always on ...

and how do i burp it, i think thats the next step... i unscrewed the bleed screw and turned on the car and let it run till it spilled out anti freeze.. then i screwed it back in when all was filled up and no air.. i dont know if i did it right...

Re: 89 Dodge Aries OVERHEATING

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:24 am
by MyDodgeDip
Try to park it nose up first. Open that bleed screw and fill it with antifreeze. Leave the plug in place but loose until antifreeze seeps out.

Have you confirmed that the fan is always running? Did you look into why it didn't come on in the first place?

Re: 89 Dodge Aries OVERHEATING

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:09 am
by inrltd
MyDodgeDip wrote:Try to park it nose up first. Open that bleed screw and fill it with antifreeze. Leave the plug in place but loose until antifreeze seeps out.

Have you confirmed that the fan is always running? Did you look into why it didn't come on in the first place?


no i didnt look cause the wires where all bad... so i just rigged it up from the sensor board thingy majiger and the negative cable of the battery...

and the fan runs non stop with the key turned on.. when i turn on key all electrical stuff turns on and u can hear the fan running non stop.. its a direct current...

and i never figured out what caused the fan to stop im just really good with electrical wires and how to get things running ...

i will try the bleed screw again.. tomorrow and then see how it goes...

its definatly not the fan thats making it overheat like crazy... the top hose to the thermostat gets super hot and bubbles within 20 minutes of driving it .. there is a leak somewhere are something minor that i cant see each day im replace something else.. and if the radiator is cracked then im get a new one.. but there is no leak on the radiator so i cant tell yet tell i fix all the other stuff .. also it passes PRESSURE TEST cause my dad is a mechanic and knows alot about cars... so its not like i didnt run tons of tests

i will definatly do what u told me about the bleeding tomorrow and see if that works.. cause when i bled it i left it fully off and it was on ground level.. and just kept pooring anti freeze till i was satisfied there was no air.. ill just do it again your way and be 100% sure it worked lol

Re: 89 Dodge Aries OVERHEATING

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:05 am
by Baron
Just because the oil isn't milky doesn't mean the head gasket didn't go. The water could be leaking into the cylinder instead of the oil and getting burned away (I learned that the hard way). Still sounds like a head gasket to me, too. But I'm no mechanic, just an old geezer that's had about everything that can happen on a car .....

happen.

Re: 89 Dodge Aries OVERHEATING

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:43 am
by inrltd
Baron wrote:Just because the oil isn't milky doesn't mean the head gasket didn't go. The water could be leaking into the cylinder instead of the oil and getting burned away (I learned that the hard way). Still sounds like a head gasket to me, too. But I'm no mechanic, just an old geezer that's had about everything that can happen on a car .....

happen.


well i dont use water.. so the antifreeze would be burnning up in the engine then?? wouldnt it leave nasty stuff in the dipstick?//?

and u wouldnt be able to drive the car with a blown head gasket... this car is definatly driveable and will be for the next month even if i dont fix this problem, but i will second look at it ... other thing i think it is maybe the water pump? i never checked it good .. and just dismissed it cause its so hard to get to

Re: 89 Dodge Aries OVERHEATING

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:04 pm
by MyDodgeDip
If antifreeze was burning you might not be able to tell and you can certainly drive a car with a bad head gasket. Just trying to rule out everything else first but with all the problems and "Repairs" done to the car, it's going to be impossible.